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A vote for Bush is a vote for John Ashcroft. That man has no business being the attorney general. He makes no pretense at neutrality regarding the separation of church and state.

A vote for Bush is a vote for Donald Rumsfeld. Remember that picture of him shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. He played a big part in selling Iraq the chemical weapons, and also in providing the intelligence needed to use it on the Kurds. You'd think that anyone wanting less foreign involvement would vote against Rumsfeld. And Rumsfeld was the one who overrode the military's desire for enough troops to win the war, for political reasons. I don't know why any military people would vote for Rumsfeld.

A vote for Bush is a vote for Cheney. Remember when he was in Iraq selling oil technology, in violation of US policy, and badmouthing that policy? (And now claims that Kerry was a traitor for badmouthing US policy during the Vietnam War.)


Or as a conservative coworker said, "Bush, I don’t have a problem with, except for mishandling the Iraq war. Rumsfeld, I have a problem with. Wolfowitz scares the crap out of me, and Ashcroft is a blithering idiot.

Date: 2004-11-01 04:23 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] cynnerth.livejournal.com
Exactly, it's not just the individual...it's the whole damn team!

Date: 2004-11-01 04:24 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
You rock :) very good points...

Date: 2004-11-01 05:06 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] serendipity.livejournal.com
Don't forget the power of Karl Rove.

Date: 2004-11-01 05:16 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] banana.livejournal.com
> ...except for mishandling the Iraq war.
That's a pretty big "except". Is he going to vote for Bush?

Date: 2004-11-01 06:15 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
As of friday he was undecided. I think he's going to need stronger coercion than that to vote Democrat. He feels there are other big issues - especially since Kerry probably won't have much effect on this war.

Date: 2004-11-01 05:25 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] vyoma.livejournal.com
By this logic, then, a vote for John Kerry is a vote for Rand Beers and Richard Morningstar, is it not?

Date: 2004-11-01 06:15 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Um... what do you mean?

Date: 2004-11-01 07:11 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] vyoma.livejournal.com
Not sure what you're asking me. Have you heard of either of these "gentlemen" before? If not, you might want to look up their respective track histories. They've both been key players in the Kerry campaign and are both very probably going to be in important cabinet posts should Kerry win the election.

Date: 2004-11-01 07:23 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Ah. Then, yes.

I had heard the names, but wasn't familiar with them. I'm guessing they're not particularly good guys either?

Date: 2004-11-01 08:26 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] vyoma.livejournal.com
No, they're very bad guys, indeed. Arguably every bit as bad as people in ShrubCo. Please, don't take my word on this... take the time and actually do a little research into these guys. Personally, I find Beers to be the more interesting of the two, but both of them have their own, errrrrr, merits.

Date: 2004-11-01 05:36 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] seamusd.livejournal.com
Don't forget also that a vote for Bush is a vote for Clarence Thomas and Tony Scallia, two of the most reactionary Supreme Court justices since the days of Jim Crow.

Date: 2004-11-01 06:17 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Good point. Not those two, of course, but more like them.

Date: 2004-11-01 11:05 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] rivendweller.livejournal.com
Great post, Kevin! Soon it will be over, I hope I hope I hope I hope....

Date: 2004-11-02 12:58 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] roadskoller.livejournal.com
MWA!

Date: 2004-11-02 07:04 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] marswalker.livejournal.com
Well said... and even regarding the points about the guard that The Johns might bring in with them, they won't be any worse than the BushCO gang-of-thieves.

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