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Here's an e-mail forward that pissed me off.
In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one
another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended
to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).

Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.

And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?"

In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK.

Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.

Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (there's a big difference between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.). And we said OK.

Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.


Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we said OK.

Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.

Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. And we said OK.

And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then further again by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech.

Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.

And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God ! and then wonder why the world's going to Hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.
You ever notice how those wacky Christian conservatives complain about all those lawsuits, claiming that it's typical liberal lack of personal responsibility for their own actions? You know, how it a typical tactic to blame others for their own accidents? Now we've got these same people complaining that their kids are not learning proper moral behavior in school, and from television. Now whose fault is it? We didn't feel it was right to let children who don't believe in Jesus to be persecuted for it, and therefore cause the nation's children to be lacking in Christian moral values, taught people that murdering is okay? These people couldn't come up with a better way to teach their children they had done wrong, than a belt across the back, and it's our fault? We didn't trust that someone with a teaching certificate in mathematics could properly beat our children, and we caused our chilren to grow up with no concept of right and wrong? We didn't feel that "a burned hand teaches best" is the best way to teach our teenagers that having babies is a bad thing, and we're the only ones who realize they're not listening to their parents, but we're the ones "promoting" teenages sex. We didn't feel it was our duty to punish the president for adultery, by firing him, so we're responsible for the moral downfall of our nation?

But all that is not all that pissed me off. This woman says that God has turned his back on us because we've turned our backs on him. If there is a god that is anything like the one the Bible says there is, he doesn't take an active part in what goes on in the world. And even if he did, 3000 people is not a huge amount. Besides, who was praying, that morning, that they'd go home after work? Or, if everyone here wa pious, they'd say that it was part of God's plan. Or that the bad guys attacked us because we believe in God. Anyway you look at it, it's bullshit. (Oops. which commandment says that profanity is wrong?)

hi Kevin...

Date: 2003-07-16 11:03 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] cherie.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing this post, it was thought provoking.
Obviously, Ms. Graham forgot about these two verses when she made her statements.

". . .for he hath said, I WILL NEVER LEAVE THEE, nor forsake thee." Hebrews 13:5

". . . and, lo, I am with you ALWAY, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matthew 28:20

Attacking Benjamin Spock was a low blow, but I am willing to bet she was regretful she said those things sooner than she had imagined.

Re: hi Kevin...

Date: 2003-07-16 01:58 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] dwivian
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The Hebrews reference is a connection to Joshua 1:5, the commission of Joshua by God. He is telling a specific person that he will be with them. The writer to the Hebrews is taking this verse and applying it to all the faithful, which may or may not be valid.

The epigraph in Matthew has long been contested by Biblical scholars as something added after the fact, as it also includes a trinity reference that would have short-circuited the entire Nicean controversy had it been more commonly known.

Now, having shot at those ever so helpfully ...

GOOD WORK! I love seeing things like that brought up... it shows how the movement from the Hebraic Covenant of Abraham had finally started transitioning to the Catholic (universal) Covenant of The Christ, in the Christian faith. We go from seeing a God that is much more likely to smite and cause destruction to one that stands beside his faithful, forgiving them through the beneficiary act of Jesus, and thus doens't need to rain down fire from the heavens.

Oh, and Ms. Graham said nothing about Benjamin Spock -- note that the quotations close long before the diatribe from some unreferenced author begins....

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