low_delta: (pissed)
This was from an article about how to propose (that was written by a diamond company).
Guys like Josh make proposals difficult for other guys, and chances are, you may not be able to think of something as romantic and clever as Josh did. So here’s some valuable advice. Choose the classic approach that time has shown again and again to be equally effective. Surprise her with the brilliance of a high-quality diamond to ensure an affirmative answer.
In other words, your best bet to get a woman to accept your proposal is the two-pronged approach - show her you've got money and you're willing to spend it on her, and get her when she's off her guard.

Date: 2002-05-14 09:54 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] lonita.livejournal.com
Handing me a diamond is about the one sure way to ensure I say no.

Date: 2002-05-14 10:21 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
You have an aversion to them?

Date: 2002-05-14 10:24 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] lonita.livejournal.com
Very much so. I won't say what, because I don't want to offend you.

Date: 2002-05-14 10:38 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] lonita.livejournal.com
Heh, it's nothing personal. I just don't want to tromp all over how specially others see them. ;>

Date: 2002-05-14 10:51 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Well, I don't see them as special - just pretty. And I'm not easily offended, anyway. But if you don't want to offend anyone else who reads this...

Date: 2002-05-16 02:26 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] banana.livejournal.com
I'd guess that she's referring either to the conditions that diamonds are produced under, or the control of the diamond market by de Beers, who keep the price artificially high, and may not be the nicest company.

Date: 2002-05-16 10:20 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
That's certainly a good possibility, but one can never really guess, with Lonita. ;-)

Date: 2002-05-16 11:57 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] banana.livejournal.com
I like guessing! Here's another: she thinks they're a waste of money because they're useless (unless you want to scratch some glass). Or she prefers sapphires and emeralds. Or she thinks they're much more beautiful when un-cut.

My opinion is that there are good reasons to dislike diamonds, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have given Cyn a diamond. You did the right thing for the two of you (which is something I'm in favour of).

Date: 2002-05-16 09:58 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Or how about this: Diamonds are just painfully cliched. And of course, when one has a strong opinion, one will not want to marry someone who is not aware of it.

Date: 2002-05-18 05:51 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] lonita.livejournal.com
I shouldn't have stayed away so long... :>

It's true, I suppose, I find diamonds very cliche, but the meaty part of why I don't like them is that I find them lifeless and boring. I like colour, colour is life to me, and while people will tell you that diamonds carry all colours, I find them transparent. I find them too easy and too impersonal. They don't speak a personal message to me.

This is, however, absolutely no reflection on others for liking them, or wanting to give them, nor the reasons why they do either. It's up to each person how they feel about things like this. I think what you gave Cyn was lovely.

If it ever comes to pass that I am given an engagement or wedding band, I *would* prefer a sapphire because it's my birthstone, or a carved ring with runes or ogham or some other symbolic thing.

Date: 2002-05-20 09:19 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
I think diamonds can be very impressive, but even the spectacular ones have little warmth. Sapphires are my favorite. I think they are the warmest of them all, for some reason. Emerald is my birthstone, and though I like sapphires better (they are less common and the color is beautiful - that deep blue is the greatest color in the universe), emerald has more symbolism and means more to me.

Date: 2002-05-16 10:00 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Okay, I doubt if many people are reading this post anymore, so if you care to share...

Date: 2002-05-14 11:08 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
More like: Give her something expensive and she can't possibly turn you down. How is this different from saying "offer a woman enough money and they're all hos"?

Personally, I proposed to Patrick in French. I can't remember what I said now. He got the drift though.

Date: 2002-05-14 11:29 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Yeah, that too.

I also thought it was strange that they said, "Surprise her with the brilliance of a high-quality diamond to ensure an affirmative answer. "

Besides that, how many women would be *surprised* to recieve diamond ring?

Your way sounds good. Definitely *classier* than proposing online. >:-D

Date: 2002-05-14 11:41 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
Your way sounds good. Definitely *classier* than proposing online. >:-D

Ha! I did it in PARIS, too! Mountmartre!

Taste my pain, bitch!! :D

Actually, Patrick and I proposed to each other. Twas all very nice, but not the least bit of a surprise, since we designed the rings together and picked the night and everything.

Date: 2002-05-14 11:58 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
:-D

She knew we would get married sooner or later, but didn't know how or when I would propose.

Date: 2002-05-16 02:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] banana.livejournal.com
So who proposed that you should propose? ;~)

Date: 2002-05-16 07:30 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
If you mean who proposed that _I_ should propose, I wanted to do it. We are very firm about gender-equality; I wanted to have the fun of proposing AND of being proposed to. I wanted to give Patrick a ring. etc. I think both sides of the whole proposal thing are fun, giving and receiving, so why not have both?

If you mean who proposed that we should do the whole proposal/marriage thing, I don't actually remember how that went. We sort of grew into it.

Date: 2002-05-16 08:17 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] banana.livejournal.com
Sounds like you did just the right thing for you two. Congratulations - though I think I'm a little late here. 8~)

Date: 2002-05-16 10:19 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
I'm firm about gender equality too, but Cyn decided she wanted to be proposed to, after doing the proposing herself her first time around.

Date: 2002-05-16 11:51 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
Hey, to each their own :) I'm all about choices.

Date: 2002-05-14 11:51 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] specificocean.livejournal.com
all of this for lumps of pressure-treated coal....

Date: 2002-05-14 11:57 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Hey, any coal that is transparent and sparkles is good coal, in my book!

Date: 2002-05-14 12:05 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] specificocean.livejournal.com
True, true....:-)

Date: 2002-05-16 11:55 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] banana.livejournal.com
Once it was a tree, but back then it wouldn't have fitted on her finger.

Date: 2002-05-14 03:18 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] vlinker.livejournal.com
hmmmmm, i suppose the old club and drag method wouldn't work with cyn......

Date: 2002-05-15 10:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] cynnerth.livejournal.com
LOL! No, I don't think so!

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Date: 2002-05-15 10:17 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] vlinker.livejournal.com
haaaaaaaa˙

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