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I just lost a day and a half of pay.

I didn't keep proper records of my vacation days. I put a copy of my approved vacation request forms into a folder. In December, I got them out and counted up my days (several times), and discovered I had two and a half days left. So I took them. It turns out that I was not given copies of all my approved requests, so my folder was short by two forms, and therefore a day and a half.

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oh no! :(
@#$%!
It's not you that didn't keep proper records. It's whoever was supposed to give you the copies of your approved requests.

Yeah, what Cyn said! Can you fight this?

No. It's not their responsibility to give me the signed paperwork back. That's just how I chose to keep track.

Our HR department has very little sympathy. I suppose I should be grateful that they are not considering disciplinary action against me for mising work.

Eeps.

Damn, then what you need is a bunch of hugs. They may not be much help, but they're all I've got. And you know I mean them.

((((Kevin)))) (((( Kevin)))) ((((Kevin))))

It's okay. I'll manage. Thanks.

I guess if I had turned my vacation requests in earlier than the day before I left, they might have alerted me to this ahead of time. But then again, probably not.

I was trying to prevent you from kicking yourself, thinking that you might not try to do so if you were being hugged, for fear of kicking the hugger instead. :)

No, I'm not that upset. You don'thave to prevent self-kicking (but I'll take the hugs anyway ;-) ).

OK, then, hugs just for hugs sake!!!

((((Freekee))))(((((Freekee)))))((((((Freekee))))))
(each one bigger than the previous one)

OUCH, sorry to hear that, {{{Kevin}}}. Ugh.

It seems to have totalled only about $110, net. It's okay. I needed the time off. :-}

Thanks

doh!
this is why we have so much paperwork in the computer age still~
i make a copy of said form UNapproved, then follow up later~
do you have applicable "floaters" you could claim?
*boo hiss* on red tape today~

That's what I am going to do now.

No, this was after all available days were applied.

The best comfort I can come up with is that you bought yourself some extra time off.

How many days do you get?

Yeha, that's what it amounted to, and my "fee" appeared on today's paycheck. I already got the time off last week - I didn't find out until the discrepancy until yesterday. A day and a half.

I mean how many days do you get for a full year?

Oh, sorry!

I'm at three weeks, plus two floating holidays, which makes 17 days.

We have ten set holidays, plus the two floaters.

Lessee... 52x2+10+17 = too few days off

TWO floating holidays?? Wow! We only get one, but we didn't get one at all last year because they gave us an extra day for 4th Of July, or some such thing.

We get twelve holidays altogether. That means whatever they don't assign to actual holidays is left over and called "floating holidays." That's usually two.

Note from my company's administrator:
AAA US Operations continues to observe nice paid holidays in the calendar year of 2002. For the year 2002, we will name 8 holidays, which appear below, and allow you to select the ninth as your floating holida, (to be taken with your managers' approval).

The eight scheduled holidays for 2002 are as follows:
January 1 - New Year's Day
May 27 - Memorial Day
July 4/5 - 4th Of July Holiday
September 2 - Labor Day
November 28/29 - Thanksgiving
December 25 - Christmas

If you add your two floaters to that, it still leaves two more holidays. What days do you get that I don't?

Christmas Eve and New Year's Eve.

Thanks. I was asking because I'd heard that you don't get much in the US. Job-before-last I got six weeks. Now I get four weeks, which is normal here. So, that's 52x2 + 20 + 8 public holidays = 1 more than you. So, I'm not much better off.

What are "floating" holidays?

At my company we get two weeks' vacation after one year of "service", three weeks after seven years, and four weeks after thirteen years of employment. I think we get five after twenty.

Nothing in the first year?

Just the two floating holidays, which are ony available after six months. Unless you're in a position to negotiate for some.

United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 24:

"Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay." (my emphasis)

That text is from: http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm

I'll be sure to forward that tom my employers, but I think their definition of "reasonable" differs from ours.

We get twelve days off every year as holidays. Sometimes all twelve don't fall on actual calendar holidays, for some strange reason. The extras can be used when we so desire.

Actually, the extra are sometimes used to fill in, when the holidays fall on awkward days to make us come in. Like when Independance Day is on a Tuesday, they wn't make us come in for Monday, so they assign one of the floaters, and we're left with one extra, or floating, holiday.

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I can deal with it.

Well its a mistake and its done and over with. I'm sorry. Don't beat yourself up over it too much.

{Simple solution, add just one paper to that file, and every time you request a vacation day off, write it down on that paper, then put a 'check' by it (or whatever you wish to do,) to show its approved and keep the paperwork. Ta da. No more mistakes in the future.)

Not beating myself up over it. Just a little angry. Partly at HR, of course. Julie says she was probably really busy that week, and skipped handing out the approval notices.
>:-(

Yah, I can understand that. Its 'never' HR's fault. That much I have learned in my life :) :)

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