visualization

[low_delta]

I am not, as a rule, superstitious. But occasionally, things seem plausible that are (currently) beyond our ability to know.

Do you believe in the power of positive thinking? Visualization? What if there was energy flowing through our world, and we could control it? What if enough people wished for something, and pictured it, that the world could be pushed in that direction, just a bit?

What if you clasped your hands and furrowed your brow, and thought very hard of your desire for your sick friend to overcome her illness? And in that moment the thought of her pain upset you, and you cried from your grief? And you could think of was a picture of her dying? What would that image do for her?

Be mindful of the outcomes you project. Imagine the smiles. Imagine the strength, energy and health. And be as specific as possible. :-)

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[ravenfeather.livejournal.com]

What if enough people wished for something, and pictured it, that the world could be pushed in that direction, just a bit?

That in my opinion is the definition of the power of "prayer" and there IS a power there, I have seen it.

Do you believe in the power of positive thinking? Visualization? What if there was energy flowing through our world, and we could control it?

I believe all of that, although I have never had the knack of visualization. I think we influence the flow of energy to be positive or negative, but I am not sure we can "control" it more than that.

You are right of course the doomsayers, the negative thinkers, they put that garbage out there too. That is why I choose whenever possible to limit my exposure to them. It is exhausting dodging their negative energy boogers they fling everywhere.

[low-delta.livejournal.com]

I have never had the knack of visualization.

I like to project images of the person in health and happiness. Cyn says she projects pure energy.

the doomsayers, the negative thinkers

My main concern is... a person who is worried about someone. And they think, "oh, my friend is dying," and they have an image of this person dying. They may be imagining what this person will look like near the end. And that image goes to the universe.

[ravenfeather.livejournal.com]

I think of visualization, or the type I have attempted is visualizing an end result for myself, say a better job, or paying off a bill, and I can't seem to get the hang of that. I had to think about it for a minute, how I "send" or project, but the best I can describe it is I send light, while thinking about healing.

[low-delta.livejournal.com]

Okay, the power of positive thinking. Now that I think about it more, that's something I'm not as sure about. I see the visualization in terms of directly driving an outcome. Positive thinking is simply hopefulness.

I'm not sure if there's a hard line between the two. Maybe the latter is just farther down the scale of effectiveness?

I'm not sure that I've really explained what I mean by all of this. Or rather, how I feel about how it works. When I visualize, I'm picturing... damn, I don't know. If your outcome is emotional, that's easy. You're sending to a living being, which can take in the energy (assuming you can actually send it in the first place - you see I'm not 100% believing). The physical body can also be affected, but I'm thinking you need to be specific about your images. You know, medically? But hard, physical objects? Not likely. Plants? Maybe? Weather? Who knows?

So visualizing paying a bill can't make that happen, using what I'm talking about. (Unless you're trying to send a telepathic message to someone to remind them to pay a bill. ;-) ) It may, on the other hand, help you remember, or to be more responsible with your money, or something like that. Visualizing yourself getting a better job helps your resolve and helps you feel better about actually looking. Theoretically, you could send such a message to someone else. But I would have trouble doing that, since I'd have to visualize it for them, and I don't know what it would look like for them.

I guess what I'm saying is that those are two different things. And the power of positive thinking is probably more viable than the visualization thing I'm talking about. :-)

[ravenfeather.livejournal.com]

I see the visualization in terms of directly driving an outcome

Ok, I can see that POV, that is the theory behind story boards, or visualization boards - you are keeping your mind focused on task so to speak.

For me, the visualizing paying a bill usually worked, but not that I would remember, but I would find a way. You know how you recognize a problem, but cannot immediately see a solution, and you keep thinking about it, then all of a sudden the answer comes to you? It isn't that solution wasn't there all along, it was, but you just could not see it. Could not conceive of it. For me, paying bills when I had/have that problem is a matter of readjusting priorities, or robbing from peter to pay for paul, or in a great many cases it involved found money that allowed me to pay the bill in question that I did not have the money to pay toward it. "Found money" meaning not necessarily money I found, but money I was not expecting. Although for many MANY years it did involve money I found. Money that I had hidden previously.

Is the power of positive thinking more viable in your opinion because it is an overall POV, a general "don't worry, be happy" attitude, where visualization tends to be specific? That is something I would have to think about, which is "better" or if it is situational.

Affecting the weather. This one fascinates me. You probably already know I pay attention to weather. Semi obsessed really. But for several years some time ago I was focused on learning how to affect weather if I could. I was in GA, and we were in a drought, like for ten years or so, and in a place with normally high rainfall. I started studying rain dances and the like, and meditation, and wiccan, and everything I could find on groups of people who believed they could influence weather, in order to bring rain. Even fringe metallurgy, or crystallography to try to understand why or how people believed weather could be influenced.

Nothing that I could tell was working FOR ME, except for once, and remember all this could just be in my head, or an assumption, or coincidence, but once I felt like I had an affect. It was along the lines of visualization, or asserting willpower, but in a metaphysical way. Where I lived in GA, I was between two river systems, and weather that did not have a lot of oomph to it, storms in particular would follow those two river systems, in effect splitting and going around me, instead of dropping water on me. I could see the solid system coming at me in the sky, and could SEE it split and go south and northeast (from what I remember ) of me. I was laying down meditating in a way, and now I can't remember if I was outside on the ground, or laying inside somewhere. I tried it after that "successful" time many times after, and it never worked again, so I can't really remember where I was the time "it worked"

I was focusing on the storms, and trying to feel how they were moving, and all of a sudden I could feel the energy charge of the storm, or the developing lightning, something. It felt like solid electricity. Something I could sense as a something more than just charged air. I used my mind to "hook" that energy and pull it toward me. Slowly, because it was hard. Again, all this is in my mind, I was not physically DOING anything. Even though I was not physically doing anything whatever I was doing took a lot of effort. I was panting, and expending energy in some way, but just kept hooking what I could feel and pulling it toward me. For about an hour until it started raining. I was exhausted, and could not move for a long time after, just trying to deep breathe, slow my heart rate etc. I don't know what I was doing, but it was hard. Still don't know if I did anything to move the storm, but it did rain. I tried many many MANY times to do it again, but never could quite "find" that solid feeling energy again.

[sunshine-two.livejournal.com]

This doesn't have to do with what you're asking but, there have been a number of times in my life when suddenly I'd start thinking about a person back home, and worrying about them. The thoughts would linger and I'd later learn they had died. I think there's something that connects us to other people but, I don't know how exactly it works.

I do believe in the power of positive thought.

[low-delta.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've experienced things like that.

It happens, occasionally, that I'll think of something I have to settle with Cyn, and I send an e-mail, but I get a message from her which crossed mine in the ether. It seems that this concerted thought about her and this issue caused her to think of me and/or remember it, and write me a message. On the other hand, maybe the odds are that this would happen every so often anyway. So who knows?

For more discussion on positive thinking, see the above conversation with Raven.

[cynnerth.livejournal.com]

Interesting conundrum! I believe in the power of positive and negative thoughts, but I don't believe our thoughts have the power to kill someone. So why do I believe that positive thought will help someone? Good question. Maybe it's a matter of degrees. I don't think I can save someone's life by thinking positive. Good things follow good energy and vice versa. BUT if you cry and imagine someone dying, you aren't projecting that energy in their direction. You are just feeling your fears.

Am I molding my beliefs to what I wish was true? Maybe.

[ravenfeather.livejournal.com]

Interesting indeed!

"I don't wish to kill, therefore if I believe that, I can't save someone life either with my thoughts."

I wonder if that degree of shielding, reduces the "power" of the thought, both ways. When you look at the beliefs of "fringe" religions, or cults, a great many of them DO believe they can do harm with their thoughts. And heal as well, but the former seems more prevalent.

[low-delta.livejournal.com]

I don't believe our thoughts have the power to kill someone.

I don't believe any humans alive, even in large groups, have power strong enough for that. They can only nudge physical processes in a certain direction.

Also, I think that visualization has an effect, even if we're not deliberately projecting. It's just at a greatly reduced effectiveness. A tiny fraction of the power. That's why I worry about how people think of their sick friends.

That is, if any of this were true. I'm not convinced. But I try, just in case.