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I read a CNN poll today.

One of the questions was...

Question: Do you think the Bush administration has gone too far, has been about right or has not gone far enough in restricting people's civil liberties to fight terrorism?

Twenty-five percent said they hadn't gone far enough.

Twenty-five percent of respondents think that restricting citizen's civil liberties is a valid tactic in the war on terror.

Twenty-five percent have lost sight of what made the United States of America the United States of America.

Granted, the poll was unscientific, and the question was a dumb one, but how can anybody answer that way, even in a knee-jerk manner?

Date: 2006-10-26 06:58 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] ravengirl.livejournal.com
i am SO moving.

Date: 2006-10-27 01:39 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] seriouspaul.livejournal.com
Really? Can you afford that? I can only hope!

My only question is, are these the same 25 out of 100 people in each instance? It's pretty easy to vilify our opposition by straw manning them, but reality isn't always as cut and dry as a cute little CNN poll. (Or Fox, or well anyone.)

Date: 2006-10-27 01:49 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Are you saying that you hope she moves out of the country?

I did mention that it was a dumb question. But it concerns me that people are even leaning inthis general direction.

Date: 2006-10-27 01:53 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] seriouspaul.livejournal.com
Are you saying that you hope she moves out of the country?

Absolutely. More room, more jobs and more services for me. Now if I can get the other 299.9 million out with her and I can get what I want. Peace and quiet.

Bothered and knee jerk silly reaction are two separate things to me. Luckily I am in charge of nothing. You think this administration curtails or wants to curtail your rights.

My political outlook, at times, falls just right of Darth Vader.

Date: 2006-10-27 01:58 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
How do you know she's making a knee-jerk reaction, and not just an expression of anger? There's a difference.

And yes I do think this administration curtails my rights. My rights as a citizen, law abiding or otherwise, as set out by the Constitution and envisioned by the people who created this country.

Date: 2006-10-27 02:04 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] seriouspaul.livejournal.com
I'll bet a dollar she'd regret moving the moment she did. Not that she ever intended that. (It's a she? I have to pay attention to those things more often.)

And yes I do think this administration curtails my rights.

Agreed. Just like every other administration in recent history.

My rights as a citizen, law abiding or otherwise

Interesting you saw fit to add this. I didn't realize it mattered.

as set out by the Constitution

Which can and has been amended. Often with desirable results.


and envisioned by the people who created this country.

Who had no idea what they were creating, and would be so quick to agree with the current administration your head would spin. Think about the world they lived in as compared to our own.

They'd pull the plug on cesspool we've made our nation and freedoms into. And this is from a militant antitheist Nihilist. Jesus don't want me as a sunbeam.

Date: 2006-10-27 02:16 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
Like every other? Worse than most.

What do you think the founding fathers would do after they pulled that plug? What would they try next?

Date: 2006-10-27 02:19 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] seriouspaul.livejournal.com
I hate both republicans and democrats as equally as...well pretty much everything else. To assign one a better record at completely neglecting it's citizenry is as pointless (to me personally.) as figuring out who has the bigger negative score in a game of hearts.

We're all losing.

As to your two questions-no idea.I have no answers. Seriously.

Date: 2006-10-26 07:10 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] vwip.livejournal.com
Twenty-five percent need to have their civil liberties severely restricted, just so they know what they're agreeing to.

Date: 2006-10-26 09:51 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] marswalker.livejournal.com
Restricted, as in, forfeited.

As Ben Franklin put it so well, they "deserve neither" freedom nor comfort.

Date: 2006-10-26 08:51 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] specificocean.livejournal.com
Scary, isn't it?

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