low_delta: (I don't get it)
My dad, Larry and I got together for whisky last night. Larry tossed out a flavor he picked up...

L: Figs
D: Pigs?
L: No, figs
K: *thinking about how horrible a pig's sty smells, and trying to make the best of the pig notes (and yes, I did realize the actual word was "figs")* Yeah, like a freshly washed pig, lying on the living room floor.

I didn't think either of them heard me, but a minute later, my dad said, "that comment about pigs on the living room floor reminded me. When I was in grade school probably second grade, a girl came to school with her glasses broken. She was still wearing them, the lens had a crack running down it. I asked what happened to her glasses, and she said 'my glasses were on the kitchen floor, and the pig stepped on them.' It was a whole 'nother world down there."

My dad grew up in rural southeastern Indiana.

That story reminded him of another one. There were twin boys, who spoke their own language. They were young, and came from a large family, and they made up their own words and knew what each other was saying. But they didn't make up these words in the context that they were were sharing something unique, it was their language. They didn't understand English. Their parents said "we don't understand them either." My dad said he didn't know how they learned anything, since they didn't understand the teachers. It makes you wonder what happened to them.

Date: 2017-06-16 10:45 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] cynnerth.livejournal.com
I wish your dad would write all these stories down. He's got hundreds of them!

Date: 2017-06-17 01:30 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
That's why I try to write them down when I can.

Date: 2017-06-22 09:15 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] serendipity.livejournal.com
You should do one of your infamous audio interviews to get him started!

Date: 2017-06-22 10:24 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] cynnerth.livejournal.com
I did that 6 years ago and got these:

Harold's 1936 Ford Pickup (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/o293h8iqik/harold_1936_ford_pickup.mp3)

Harold's Work Stories (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/n548va1006/harold_work_stories.mp3)

The Little Clan (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/n74g49buiv/the_little_clan.mp3)

Harold in Colorado (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/52ngs38l53/haroldcolorado.mp3)

He said back then that he'd start writing them down, but he hasn't as far as I know.

Date: 2017-06-16 12:13 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] pondhopper.livejournal.com
Heh. Pigs were part of the family then? I mean free run of the kitchen and everything? Unless it was one of those kitchens detached from the farmhouse, maybe.

I have heard of other kids who create their own languages but never about kids who didn't understand the language everybody else at home spoke if they weren't adopted and brought in later, that is. As a language teacher I know that daily exposure to a language pretty much assure that you will at least understand it passively.

Date: 2017-06-17 01:29 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
I reckon the kids did understand people. And probably pretended they didn't.

Date: 2017-06-18 12:40 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] cynnerth.livejournal.com
I asked Harold about the pig story on Friday night. He said it wasn't a pet like nowadays. It had just wandered in from the farmyard.

Date: 2017-06-18 09:54 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] pondhopper.livejournal.com
I thought so. Wandering pig! LOL

Date: 2017-06-22 09:13 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] serendipity.livejournal.com
"....most twins...receive enough exposure to their native language for it to quickly override their twin-speak. A twin language lacks the complexity to function in the outside world so most cryptophasic twins tend to abandon their secret language around the age of three." Source

Date: 2017-06-23 12:32 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] low-delta.livejournal.com
I don't imagine that in their limited backwoods environment, they needed it to have much complexity.

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