Oh, the founding fathers knew of the party politics problem (it was going on in Parliament, you see), and had even considered outlawing them entirely, but decided it ran afoul of the concepts of freedom. Still, even the founder of our first political party said, "If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."(T.Jefferson). Factions were, and still are, a problem, but what can you do? People like to be in groups, to band together to get something done.
And, there was no 5-4 vote for Bush to be president. He won the electoral college, which is what counts. If you meant the Supreme Court ruling, the relevant verdict was 7-2. But, with either judgement, the voting rules, followed closely, would have generated a constitutional crisis, as the State of Florida was about to be put in the position of having its electors ejected or direct appointed by the Florida Legislature (a valid action, from before the desire by the states to allow popular election of electors). I think it would have made for some great stories.
I made no misunderstanding -- I just find that people that contend Bush wasn't elected properly to be anti-EC, and I like talking with them to figure out why they feel that way. I also find that people that refer to Bush as an usurper to be underinformed about what happened in Florida, and what the clock was for getting things right.
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Date: 2004-01-12 12:08 am (UTC)From:And, there was no 5-4 vote for Bush to be president. He won the electoral college, which is what counts. If you meant the Supreme Court ruling, the relevant verdict was 7-2. But, with either judgement, the voting rules, followed closely, would have generated a constitutional crisis, as the State of Florida was about to be put in the position of having its electors ejected or direct appointed by the Florida Legislature (a valid action, from before the desire by the states to allow popular election of electors). I think it would have made for some great stories.
I made no misunderstanding -- I just find that people that contend Bush wasn't elected properly to be anti-EC, and I like talking with them to figure out why they feel that way. I also find that people that refer to Bush as an usurper to be underinformed about what happened in Florida, and what the clock was for getting things right.