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I've been getting into it with people on Facebook lately. But I don't get involved in discussions about opinions, I only start when people post really stupid shit.
Today someone posted an article from a right-wing site (it had a Breitbart banner across the top of the page). It was about this crap where the law enforcement had standing orders not to get involved with any issue at the school because it would make the school look bad. I don't recall everything else that was in the article, but there were vague mentions of Hillary Clinton.
I replied:
It's really scary that people believe this stuff. It's all so preposterous. IN what kind of a world would this happen? Can you picture it happening in your state? No. But you can picture in happening in Florida, because Florida is a crazy place, right? Well, no, Florida isn't that crazy!
This is first order conspiracy theory, like the moon landing, chemtrails and 911.
The people that spread this kind of misinformation are the same kind of people that believe Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. The people who write these lies are intentionally sowing mistrust in all that we read and hear. When enough of the people can't trust most of of what they hear, these people can do whatever they want and take over. Because there will so much distrust of any media, that no one will be able to disprove anything.
Another guy posted a meme that compared liberals to conservatives in the worst terms. Like "If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church. A liberal nonbeliever wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced."
I replied:
Why do you post made-up hateful shit like this? You're just insulting people because of stereotypes. Come to think of it, that's a very conservative thing to do.
I'm so sick of people who don't understand liberals and therefore hate them, talking about what they think those liberals are thinking.
He said: Okay I am done talking politics. No can have a civil conversation without being attacked. I posted this showing the extremes. Kevin, I did not mean any thing personal. If I offend you unfriend me.
I replied: I don't have a problem discussing politics. I don't mind if it gets a little heated sometimes. But you're not taking a position on an issue. You're taking a position against liberals. Politics is fine. Hatred and insults is not. Go back to politics.
And this one... Liberals are saying that the American Flag is offensive to Muslims. Share if you don't give a damn.
Me: What in the fuck are you talking about? The shit you post just gets stupider and stupider. You sound like a liberal troll who's posting stupid shit, just to get people riled up.
Him: Looks like its working. :) Look we obviously have different political viewpoints. Lets agree to stay on our own side of the playground. Sound good?
Me: You mean unfriend you? Look, I don't have a problem with my conservative friends who state their viewpoints. We often have lively discussions, and we remain friends. But the shit you post is just stupid. It's not based on anything factual. You post a lot of angry, hateful stuff, much of which is untrue. More than anyone else I know on Fb. That's not constructive.
The only conservative I ever unfriended here for their views was someone who espoused genocide.
I could say something, like "conservative affirm the right to burn crosses in black people's yards," and I'm starting to approach the stupidity of what you just posted about the flag. The only difference is that there are actually some conservatives who think this is OK.
Him: posted a source for what he was talking about.
Me: Ah. Got it. Taunting people who one deems not American enough by virtue of their colored skin or refugee status should be protected. Someone in charge says "knock it off, asshole." The kid shows puppy dog eyes and says "What's wrong with a little patriotism?" And they can't wear the red white and blue. Sounds to me like they defiled it themselves.
But what you posted still doesn't have any facts. It makes it sound like Muslims are offended by the flag. Muslims aren't offended by display of the flag. They're offended by the behavior of the people showing it off. And it makes it sound like "liberals" are OK with taking down the flag. But they're not. They're just the only ones with the balls to stand up to these kids and make them knock off the assholery. Of course I'm making a generalization about the racism of conservatives. Many of those school officials may have been conservatives concerned about violence.
And what about the article you posted. The simple fact that it touts a "hidden agenda" makes me want to disbelieve everything it said. But I went along with it for the sake of discussion.
The left doesn't hate the flag. The left doesn't have an anti-America agenda. There is no one-world agenda. Unless you believe in the Illuminati.
There is one thing that was said in the article that I agree with. "The hysteria over flags is part of a deep-seated spirit of divisiveness." But it's always conservatives that make a big deal of the flag. You're un-American if you don't wave it hard enough. You don't deserve to be elected if you don't have a flag pin on your lapel when you campaign. You're not a patriot if you don't have a flag pole in your yard. You don't deserve to be an American if you don't salute it when it goes by in a parade. Hysteria. I mean, it's great to teach respect for the flag, but they hatred and vitriol spewed at the people who don't follow the rules to your satisfaction is not befitting an American.
Today someone posted an article from a right-wing site (it had a Breitbart banner across the top of the page). It was about this crap where the law enforcement had standing orders not to get involved with any issue at the school because it would make the school look bad. I don't recall everything else that was in the article, but there were vague mentions of Hillary Clinton.
I replied:
It's really scary that people believe this stuff. It's all so preposterous. IN what kind of a world would this happen? Can you picture it happening in your state? No. But you can picture in happening in Florida, because Florida is a crazy place, right? Well, no, Florida isn't that crazy!
This is first order conspiracy theory, like the moon landing, chemtrails and 911.
The people that spread this kind of misinformation are the same kind of people that believe Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. The people who write these lies are intentionally sowing mistrust in all that we read and hear. When enough of the people can't trust most of of what they hear, these people can do whatever they want and take over. Because there will so much distrust of any media, that no one will be able to disprove anything.
Another guy posted a meme that compared liberals to conservatives in the worst terms. Like "If a conservative is a nonbeliever, he doesn't go to church. A liberal nonbeliever wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced."
I replied:
Why do you post made-up hateful shit like this? You're just insulting people because of stereotypes. Come to think of it, that's a very conservative thing to do.
I'm so sick of people who don't understand liberals and therefore hate them, talking about what they think those liberals are thinking.
He said: Okay I am done talking politics. No can have a civil conversation without being attacked. I posted this showing the extremes. Kevin, I did not mean any thing personal. If I offend you unfriend me.
I replied: I don't have a problem discussing politics. I don't mind if it gets a little heated sometimes. But you're not taking a position on an issue. You're taking a position against liberals. Politics is fine. Hatred and insults is not. Go back to politics.
And this one... Liberals are saying that the American Flag is offensive to Muslims. Share if you don't give a damn.
Me: What in the fuck are you talking about? The shit you post just gets stupider and stupider. You sound like a liberal troll who's posting stupid shit, just to get people riled up.
Him: Looks like its working. :) Look we obviously have different political viewpoints. Lets agree to stay on our own side of the playground. Sound good?
Me: You mean unfriend you? Look, I don't have a problem with my conservative friends who state their viewpoints. We often have lively discussions, and we remain friends. But the shit you post is just stupid. It's not based on anything factual. You post a lot of angry, hateful stuff, much of which is untrue. More than anyone else I know on Fb. That's not constructive.
The only conservative I ever unfriended here for their views was someone who espoused genocide.
I could say something, like "conservative affirm the right to burn crosses in black people's yards," and I'm starting to approach the stupidity of what you just posted about the flag. The only difference is that there are actually some conservatives who think this is OK.
Him: posted a source for what he was talking about.
Me: Ah. Got it. Taunting people who one deems not American enough by virtue of their colored skin or refugee status should be protected. Someone in charge says "knock it off, asshole." The kid shows puppy dog eyes and says "What's wrong with a little patriotism?" And they can't wear the red white and blue. Sounds to me like they defiled it themselves.
But what you posted still doesn't have any facts. It makes it sound like Muslims are offended by the flag. Muslims aren't offended by display of the flag. They're offended by the behavior of the people showing it off. And it makes it sound like "liberals" are OK with taking down the flag. But they're not. They're just the only ones with the balls to stand up to these kids and make them knock off the assholery. Of course I'm making a generalization about the racism of conservatives. Many of those school officials may have been conservatives concerned about violence.
And what about the article you posted. The simple fact that it touts a "hidden agenda" makes me want to disbelieve everything it said. But I went along with it for the sake of discussion.
The left doesn't hate the flag. The left doesn't have an anti-America agenda. There is no one-world agenda. Unless you believe in the Illuminati.
There is one thing that was said in the article that I agree with. "The hysteria over flags is part of a deep-seated spirit of divisiveness." But it's always conservatives that make a big deal of the flag. You're un-American if you don't wave it hard enough. You don't deserve to be elected if you don't have a flag pin on your lapel when you campaign. You're not a patriot if you don't have a flag pole in your yard. You don't deserve to be an American if you don't salute it when it goes by in a parade. Hysteria. I mean, it's great to teach respect for the flag, but they hatred and vitriol spewed at the people who don't follow the rules to your satisfaction is not befitting an American.
