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low_delta ([personal profile] low_delta) wrote2004-01-07 10:46 pm

protesters = terrorists ?

article by James Boward at SFGate.com

Can anyone provide any sort of rationale at all for removing protesters from the general vicinity of the president?


Here are some quotes from the article that I thought were especially interesting:

Local police, acting under Secret Service orders, established a "free-speech zone" half a mile from where Bush would speak.

On May 30, 2002, Ashcroft effectively abolished restrictions on FBI surveillance of Americans' everyday lives first imposed in 1976. One FBI internal newsletter encouraged FBI agents to conduct more interviews with antiwar activists "for plenty of reasons, chief of which it will enhance the paranoia endemic in such circles and will further service to get the point across that there is an FBI agent behind every mailbox."

The FBI took a shotgun approach toward protesters partly because of the FBI's "belief that dissident speech and association should be prevented because they were incipient steps toward the possible ultimate commission of act which might be criminal," according to a Senate report.

On Nov. 23 news broke that the FBI is actively conducting surveillance of antiwar demonstrators, supposedly to "blunt potential violence by extremist elements," according to a Reuters interview with a federal law enforcement official.

Given the FBI's expansive definition of "potential violence" in the past, this is a net that could catch almost any group or individual who falls into official disfavor.


And finally...

But the Justice Department -- in the person of U.S. Attorney Strom Thurmond Jr. -- quickly jumped in, charging Bursey with violating a rarely enforced federal law regarding "entering a restricted area around the president of the United States."


I would guess that that charge is a felony offense, removing the offending liberal from the voter rolls.
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Re: fascism

[personal profile] dwivian 2004-01-08 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I regret that you feel so. I have never sold out to anyone, or anything, in my political opinion. And, my understanding of fascism is based in history, modern usage, and supported by definition. As I said, too many people like to use words without understanding what they mean - this forces definition migration, but also obscures issues while both meanings are in force.

Your definition has nothing to do with fascism, but socialism. They are different things, and you would do well to make a note of it.

Re: fascism

[identity profile] angst-is-fun.livejournal.com 2004-01-08 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Is this Dennis Miller by chance because he sold out to the right wing as well?
The similarity is eeeeerie:)
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Re: fascism

[personal profile] dwivian 2004-01-08 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Cute. Your confusion about what is right wing, and myself, shows me how much you have sold out to the feel-good-but-please-don't-think attitude of the lunatic left.

There -- see, I can be just as insulting, but it is stupid, and pointless. I will not respond again to such baiting -- if you care to open your mind, and learn, I'll be here.

Re: fascism

[identity profile] angst-is-fun.livejournal.com 2004-01-08 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm done playing with you